Allison recommends that customers using TES 295 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. The time that the refund appears on your card is dependent on your card issuers policy. endstream endobj 182 0 obj <>stream This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. The synthetic base oil composition enables excellent performance even in some of the harshest operating conditions. Thanks for the input so far! You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program, http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx, Privacy center (Do not sell or share my personal information), Other equipment requiring Allison TES-295 and TES-468 or MB-Approval 236.91 performance levels. Gary. We Have You Covered Extended Transmission Coverage (ETC) Harness the Power of Genuine TES 668 Transmission Fluid Your Fleet of Information Allison HUB Premium Allison Genuine Reman Ready When You Are My Transmission and Fluid + Filter Calculator pages are now located on the HUB under SERVICE menu HUB Account Login Username Password Log in JavaScript is disabled. First, it's a pretty simple procedure and their are a bunch of posts and YouTube videos on the topic. Gary, you hit the nail on the head and it is good information for others who might attempt servicing their own transmission. However, if you drain the sump, additional fluid is required approaching 19 or so quarts, so the situation has been demystified. Fleece performance has some Ally controllers as does Howard's but good luck getting him to answer the phone. IMHO, a xmission that costs >15K, needs to be treated with caution. Our parts are either sandblasted or washed in our parts cleaner. The Allison Owner's manual is not really clear on this point. Sorry, but I do not share CAD data. The tranny is awfully large though you guys are right about that. First time go to an Allison shop, be a pest and observe. Our Website may also enable third-party tracking mechanisms to collect data over time and across unaffiliated websites for use in interest-based marketing. Manufacturer Allison Model MD 3060 Condition Takeout Transmission Part Numbers Serial#: 6510078702, Part#: 29514781, Other#: 96 E 02. These cookies are used to determine which parts of our Website interest our visitors. deduction of the original shipping cost. I have enough fluid to make another whole fluid change-over. Allison TES 668 Approved Fluids are recommended for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. Any help will be appreciated. Necessary cookies help make a website usable by enabling basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website. This site uses different types of cookies. bench buddy 4-piece brush set for valve bore polishing & more: bb100 by superior . MD3060 fluid recommend Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. compare If you copy the serial number, you can go the the Allison website and get all the info on your transmission. The MD3060 came from a '98 motorhome/coach and it was attached to a P pump 5.9 Cummins 12v and as far as the harness it looks like one on the only inputs from the motor would be the TPS and a temp sender. Refunds will then be initiated to your credit card (or original method of payment). Call to Purchase: 1-800-663-6460 Monday-Friday 8am-5pm PST, 12905 King George Blvd. Thanks for the tip on leaving one of the bolts in so I don't get a bath. I measured the amount that I drained out (1/2 gal.) 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Anyone have those websites or info? I caught all the old fluid and it looked like a lot, so i measured it to see how much and it was damned close to 19 quarts, the listed "capacity" of this transmission. %PDF-1.7 % 181 0 obj <>stream So sometimes you would be changing your filters without changing the fluid, I guess? Use our locator tool to find out where to buy Mobil Delvac products in your area. Not something you want to have happen!!!!! I read that it takes 29 quarts so I am curious about how many I will have to buy so as not to have too many extra gallons of $35.10 oil left over! I think the HPCR Cummins has the CANbus mentioned above, but not 100%. All of our parts are cleaned and inspected before shipping to ensure that they are in good condition. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF advanced technology has demonstrated extended drain, long-term friction retention, and low-temperature capability. Hi Brett. All rights reserved. For some reason I thought that I would loose enough fluid when I changed the filters that it would be practically the same as a complete refill! I have had Transynd put in several years ago. . Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is recommended by ExxonMobil for use in: Call 1-800-662-4525 with product questions. Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2, Does anyone know what fluid is recommended for this transmission and if we change the type of fluid do you need to change the filters as well, Don't Miss Paradise Oaks RV Resort In Florida, The Best Mail Services For Full-Time RVers, The 10 Best Spring Break Destinations For RVers, What You Should Know About RV Towing Insurance, 4 Embarrassing Things We Did As New RVers, Allison 3000 temp lower in 5th gear vs 6th, Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. it does shift slow and when it shifts you KNOW it shifts. 99 Truck Parts provides ground shipping to the United States (lower 48) and across Canada on most parts. I'll try that and give Freightliner a call also. Call for Price Plus Shipping & Handling. lubegard complete full synthetic atf automatic transmission fluid 3 quarts (69032) lubegard. Allison recommends that customers using TES 468 Approved Fluid consider Allisons newest fluid spec, TES 668, for their next service. [$EM 6{Rr!vP g L5:eF@0#$tN@ n @U~)xL^1NrZcy"&AoEe_ In order of favorables: #1, MD3060 #2 . Allison Transmission Fluid and Filter Changing IMPORTANT: For oil and filter change intervals, see the applicable Allison Operator's Manual. Gary I do have a transmission dipstick and hadn't thought about using that. Input and retainers can be changed for different BM numbers or serial numbers as necessary. Allison 3000 Transmission Fluid Capacity The capacity has not changed in the last few sentences. If you crawl underneath, there should be a metal plate with model and serial number on the driver's side of the transmission. Reduced concern in top-off situations and excellent seal materials leakage control. $62.88 $54.77 $69.95. Qty 1. They also suggest fluid type, capacity, and filter #s. My Allison. 982797. The website cannot function properly without these cookies. This product has the following approvals: VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 013 -Extended Drain, VOITH TURBO DIWA Service Bulletin 118 - Extended Drain, Brookfield Viscosity @ -40 C, mPa.s, ASTM D2983, Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Kinematic Viscosity @ 40 C, mm2/s, ASTM D445, Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @ http://www.msds.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx. 180 ILL NO. All I can figure is that the PO filled it to capacity, not knowing any different. To purchase an Allison approved fluid, use the Sales + Service Locatorto find an Allison Authorized Distributor in your area. Yesterday we loaded up the motorhome and was backing up to hook up a trailer. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. If you are unsure, call Allison with your transmission serial # and they can tell you. Shifts quick, decent close gear ratios, converter locks up in 2-5 or 2-6, and single or double overdrive(5 or 6 spd). Thanks. Health and Safety recommendations for this product can be found on the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) @, Your privacy is important to us and we want you to understand our practices with respect to the gathering and handling of your personal data. The MD3060 came from a '98 motorhome/coach and it was attached to a P pump 5.9 Cummins 12v and as far as the harness it looks like one on the only inputs from the motor would be the TPS and a temp sender. There a few things to be aware of so I thought I'd share. and when I tried to pour it back in with a funnel and a clear plastic hose, it fills the tube fast and runs out the top! I had a transmission fluid change-over at 7000 miles. Then you won't have to do it again for 100,000 miles. 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TRANNY Instant SHUDDER FIXX 2oz. Copyright 1999 2023 GoDaddy Operating Company, LLC. This helps us guarantee that there are no defects in any of the parts we send out. Canada. Thanks Gary. As was said, these transmissions are HUGE! Canada. Allison MD3060 fluid level iRV2.com Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts. Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) If you have difficulty registering an account, logging in or need other account-related assistance, send us a message and well get back to you shortly. If you use the truck strictly for work, this is a great trans to use. 1 MD3060.ELE03 VALVE BODY PARTS Allison 3000 Series, MD3060, MD3656. I spend countless hours stuck in hotel rooms with my job and over research these things to kill time. The trans is currently behind a 5.9 cummins in a ford, but I am trying to figure out info on swapping to the dt466 I seem to remember a forum where there were some guys making internationals into 4x4's, anyone else know that forum? Thanks! If so, call them (1-800-FTL-HELP) with your VIN number and they can tell you what the capacity of your transmission is and how much fluid you should add on a filter change. I changed both filters on my Allison MD3060 today. You can find links to relevant notices and more information about ExxonMobils privacy program here. This time I will only unscrew the drain plug and let it drain for a couple of days and then refill. Many motorhome manufacturers use the 4" sump which uses the 6" filters. These sources are the same for other fluids as well. I read something about an Internal filter that I will have to ask the service manager about when I buy the parts. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-powertrain/41978-nv5600-fso6406a-6-speed-fuller.html, http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903103, http://howards-conversions-allison.com/products.php?id=all. ?pQgu&a>Txdp @'zK(/c35Or(0no9fL*WKczQbwRPP`*!,ls|r8RRFg,k,;KweF~n*LfxOH i4q[LrAz}EUtgHN0)1 N2y>u _ Location 21C2. The customer will pay the shipping cost for the return of the item. My next plan is to take a highway run and then check for any leaks, and use the electronic indicator to tell me if it is OK. Why would the dipstick always register so high on the dipstick when it is cold? I don't know too much, but I read the torque on the filter bolts was 37-43 FT lbs? The unit wouldnt allow me to start the RV which is a 1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor. Mail us at:ExxonMobil Fuels & Lubricants Company This is a very common. I figured that it would be "easy" for me to be 1-2 quarts low, so I emptied the remainder (2 qts) of a partial gallon into the transmission which now makes 12 quarts total, expecting the sensor now to indicate 2 quarts low. Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator. I've decided this is one of life's mysteries that I will never come to know, so as long as the engine is happy I buy the 7 gals of 15W40 and a new filter every year and pour myself an adult libation to celebrate when I'm done. Gary. Help on switching browsers can be found online. Now if only I could figure out why I drain 5.5 gallons of oil from my ISL engine, but have to put almost 7 gals back in to read "full". sort by: sale. Industrial lubricants by equipment builder. Go with synthetic trans fluid. But if so, why does the dipstick continue to show full after driving many, many miles? Now I will attempt to finish the job. On Shelf . I need to tackle that project as well!!! Most of the Allison literature indicates the onboard system is far more accurate than the dipstick, but the dipstick would give an "estimate" of fluid content. Need your part faster or want to use your preferred courier? Return Address: Keeps transmissions clean to extend life and performance even under some of the harshest driving conditions. 99 Truck Parts Thought you would be interested in this article/resource and could find it useful. Well, the excitement is not over yet. Serial#: 6510078702, Part#: 29514781, Other#: 96 E 02. Most parts are then painted to ensure that they stay in the best shape possible until we ship them out. Allison Transmission TES 295 Approved Fluids are approved for use in Allison 1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series, 4000 Series and H 40/50 EP on-highway products. Glad that one is solved. When it is at operating temperature I always use the UP and DOWN arrows. The Allison that's the top dog (for a DT466)would be the MD3060. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC. I guess it means you have to change your transmission fluid every 48 months even if it is Transynd? Qk4D~F\~CL+8eqqU1SjUkE ITcLoB]$ W,%V~~:HK?AU. Maybe the drain plug you removed was on the torque converter? Returns will only be processed within 10 business days of the delivery of the item. This enables us to make the structure, navigation, and content of our Website as user friendly as possible. I received a reply to a personal message I sent to Allisonman and he responded that the two filter cavities are isolated from the main sump and if you only replace the filters without draining the sump, the 10.5 quart value is close to being correct. Contact us: I have decided there are 2 possible schedules to follow: Thanks Brett and Steve. How is a tranny that huge and from a MH only rated at 275hp?? Now I have 37,000. We use cookies to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. Transmission Model. Drove about 8 miles to a nearby Lowes where there was a nice level parking lot and pulled up and went into the electronic oil level check mode and the indicator, after a period of "settling" time, said that I was 4 quarts low. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. All website features may not be available based upon your cookie consent elections. If you would like to discuss it further, you can contact me directly. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners who may combine it with other information that youve provided to them or that theyve collected from your use of their services. DESCRIPTION YEARS QTY PART NO Allison 3000 Series, MD3060, MD3656 HARD PARTS 801A Piston, Lock-up Apply (MD3060) 1 MD3060.PIS01 NI Cover/Diaphragm With Seal . The parts are then organized and given a bin location so they are ready to be shipped as soon as possible. Also in some other old posts there was talk of having custom ECMs for allison 2400's and they were talking about 4 different companies that made parts for allison swaps. Key features and benefits include. Simply let our friendly salesperson know your preference when you place your order. 21 . Allison Approved synthetic fluids provide extended drain intervals and offer thermal and viscosity advantages over conventional petroleum based fluids, as well as other synthetic fluids. This discussion is proudly sponsored by: Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2 Thread Tools Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free! Anybody ever anything to do with the Allison MD3060 6 speed tranny? The cold check mark is only about 1 1/2 in from the end of the dipstick. Faster shipping methods are available at an additional cost. I agree to the Terms and Privacy*. Re: Allison MD3060P Specs Reply #3 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:13 AM Non PTO 3000 series is 28.29" long and weighs 535lbs. The PTO is rated at 485ft/lbs using one PTO and just over 600lb/ft for both. ~Gyn|YDpQ K>1\T3 ;Q' adn2@&7]OFTz0W Pmg5d;TZgb3HHk[FM5yZHElt>Qm9t\w_X!L PTO version is 32.49" long and weighs 575lbs. As I've had the dealer change the fluid when I bought the truck in 2015, it's the first time for me changing the tranny fluid/filter. Allison recommends TES 668 Approved Fluids to extend drain intervals and enhance transmission performance and durability in all operating environments. Horsepower rating is up to 370hp and 1100lb/ft torque on the transmission. If you wish to set a specific communication frequency or otherwise update your preferences, please visit the following link to modify your settings: Preference Center. Thanks everyone for all the replies. Surrey, BC V3T 2T1 Huntsville, AL I have a MD3000MH transmission in my Horizon and drained it via drain plug and removed the filters to replace them. high Capacity Filters for allison 3000/4000 Product Families transmissions were released into allison production July 2006, beginning with the following transmission serial numbers: 6510670912 (3000 series) 6610205144 (4000 series) high Capacity Filters allow extended filter change intervals when used with an allison approved tes 295 automatic Work Order. we have the MD3070PT in a couple trucks at work. I have the deep sump so it will take the 4 inch filters. I have not done this before, but am going to do it in the next week. JavaScript is disabled. Allison MD3060 Fluid/Filter Change - Airstream Forums Airstream Forums > > Airstream Motorhome Forums > Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More. We have a 1997 Discovery motorhome with 5.9 Cummins and an Allison MD3060 six speed transmission on a Freightliner chassis. Mobil Delvac 1 ATF is a fully synthetic fluid recommended by Allison Transmission, Inc. and approved against the Allison TES-295 and TES-468 Specifications. Thanks Ned and Gary, those are good ideas. So I'm askingis the 10.5 qt the correct value for the shallow (2") pan? I torqued the bolts to 40. TES 668 builds upon the proven 20-year record of TES 295 synthetic fluid by delivering the same great performance with a modern additive package. Provides prompt and reliable lubrication at sub-zero ambient temperatures down to 54 C. Leads to viscosity retention even under the severest heavy duty, high temperature operating conditions. Versus conventional ATF fluids, the inherently high viscosity index and stability of Mobil Delvac 1 ATF protects against thermal breakdown at high operating temperatures, while still providing outstanding performance at sub-zero temperatures. We take your privacy rights seriously and we are dedicated to the protection of your personal data. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 22777 Springwoods Village Parkway, Spring, TX 77389 It's pretty much "fill for life". If you want that capacity in liters, then you are looking at 28 liters for the deeper pan and 25 for the shallower or regular pan. is rated (and warrantied) for. . Is that on a Freightliner chassis? Fill Capacity:qt (L) * 2100/2200/2500 Series (standard sump) 15 (14) 2100/2200/2500 Series (shallow sump) 13 (12) For some reason the dipstick always has transmission fluid about 6" above any mark, even though it is being checked when the fluid is cold.